Yeah, it was REALLY LONG, wasn't it? I DID have 48 episodes to bitch about.
Yeeeahhh, that movie clip makes me wonder why we have to see the breakup/aftermath from Kyousuke's POV when all it did was reinforce his coldness more than anything else...
See, the thing is I'm guessing to most fans that wouldn't register as "Here is Kyosuke being a dick" but "Aw, Kyosuke is doing what he has to do." I have a feeling they were watching the "What the creators want you to see" version and I'm watching some meta-version. (Slacktivist's Left Behind commentaries talk about this phenomenon a lot -- particuarly how the main characters are supposed to be brave, honest Christian manly-men but come off as narcissistic, misogynist creeps and how the writers' attempts at making one character look like an evil slut-woman actually make her more sympathetic.)
It was kind of interesting to NOT be wearing the same glasses as everyone else, but it gave me the expectation that Kyosuke would at one point have to look at himself and go, "Oh my God ... I've been a JERK." But that never happened.
Madoka probably subverted the Yamato Nadeshiko trope*. But as you lamented, chauvinisticmasturbatory fantasies will be what they'll be regardless of actual context *cough*Ayanami*cough*
Are you talking about others' perception or the show itself?
I actually didn't mind Madoka getting together with Kyosuke, by the way. Mostly because of those few moments like the beach run that suggested Kyosuke COULD get over his internal bullshit and morph into the good boyfriend. But the show's own lack of self-awareness about his dickishness and coward sides were frustrating.
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Yeeeahhh, that movie clip makes me wonder why we have to see the breakup/aftermath from Kyousuke's POV when all it did was reinforce his coldness more than anything else...
See, the thing is I'm guessing to most fans that wouldn't register as "Here is Kyosuke being a dick" but "Aw, Kyosuke is doing what he has to do." I have a feeling they were watching the "What the creators want you to see" version and I'm watching some meta-version. (Slacktivist's Left Behind commentaries talk about this phenomenon a lot -- particuarly how the main characters are supposed to be brave, honest Christian manly-men but come off as narcissistic, misogynist creeps and how the writers' attempts at making one character look like an evil slut-woman actually make her more sympathetic.)
It was kind of interesting to NOT be wearing the same glasses as everyone else, but it gave me the expectation that Kyosuke would at one point have to look at himself and go, "Oh my God ... I've been a JERK." But that never happened.
Madoka probably subverted the Yamato Nadeshiko trope*. But as you lamented,
chauvinisticmasturbatory fantasies will be what they'll be regardless of actual context *cough*Ayanami*cough*Are you talking about others' perception or the show itself?
I actually didn't mind Madoka getting together with Kyosuke, by the way. Mostly because of those few moments like the beach run that suggested Kyosuke COULD get over his internal bullshit and morph into the good boyfriend. But the show's own lack of self-awareness about his dickishness and coward sides were frustrating.