For serious. I don't know what group I hate more in that sorry war, sometimes. The bishounen-lovers with their, "men are better if they look like flat-chested girls with no cocks are awesome, because women don't like cocks and real men are crap at everything also women deserve contempt" or the bara-lovers with their "WE LOVE REAL MEN! Bara is about REAL MEN and if you don't like bara you're a HOMOPHOBE" and acting as if every feminine gay guy in the world was bred by the media to personally insult them.

And yeah, that's a generalized statement that doesn't apply to everyone in either category, but those are my general, hurl-tastic impressions.