I could go long and drawn out ...

[quietprofanity]

But this is probably going out into the ether, so I'll be brief.

1.) For all this bullshit whining about how bad anger is and how it's hurting the feminist comics fan's cause. You know, I'm not much of an angry person ... Well, I kind of am. But I'm also a sensitive woobie and so then I get upset about it later. Anyway, I try to spread my anger where it's needed. I think I give creators a lot of leeway. ("High heels? Well, her powers ARE magic-based -- it's not like she HAS to run." This may be how I was able to watch Sailor Moon.)

So ... yeah, not extremely angry. I haven't gotten really mad over anything that happened this year except for the Mary-Jane-killed-by-semen subplot and I didn't really blog about it extensively. In fact, when I was first discovering WFA, I thought Karen Healey was overbearing. And I outright got in a fight with Valerie D'Orazio under my old name (and hers).

Now I read their blogs every day. What kept me coming back? Well, I kept coming back to Karen's blog because she was pretty insightful and witty, had really good recommendations for when she DID like something. And Valerie ... well, she makes me laugh (and in the good way, too). Usually don't agree with her still, but her insights are unique. And "Good-bye to Comics", obviously.

But yeah ... anger wasn't quite the deterrent in either situation. Yes, I'm not a creator and maybe since I was a feminist I was inclined to listen to them on one degree or another anyway. But hey, all those creators claim to like women and also, I think they blame it on anger, but I don't think they really listen to female fans much to begin with. Or maybe you really think Marvel would have pulled the Mary Jane statue or DC would have given Steph a Robin case if everyone just ASKED NICELY. Would you like to try?

2.) Why is everyone fighting with the SAME DAMN PEOPLE again and again?

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And now that I have your attention ... can you think of any cartoon characters that don't have any physical attributes of a certain race but act like a certain race (or stereotypes of one). I'm thinking of Frylock (played by a black man) and Coach Z here. Got any others?

I just want to know your "thoughts on [blank]" regarding this. Seriously.

Comments

[big-wired.livejournal.com]

I can understand the getting angry bit because sometimes, well oftentimes, it's as though Marvel is doing everything it can to piss off fans, especially female fans, with the crap they pull down. Not just the Spidey Sperm killer, but the statue, Adah Hughes' response, Brian Michael Bendis with his rapey comment, the schlong-sucking atmosphere of his interview on newsarama, Tigra, and others.

DC has been relatively minor in doing stupid stuff like that, but they do slip up with Ed Benes being almost an arse/chest fetish as Frank Cho, and the systematic slaughtering of most lesbian characters they have.

As for arguing with the same people, well, WFA links to whoever discusses these issues, so so long as MTS and RMM keep ranting on like the control trolls they are, they'll still be linked.

If anything, it's good to occasionally check out the lunacy and hypocrisy they go on with, to compare yourself with and ensure you're not reaching their level and stay on the straight and narrow.

[quietprofanity.livejournal.com]

I dunno if it's a Marvel thing; I'm reading people's complaints about DC every day. (The Wedding, the Death of Big Barda, whenever Supergirl does anything, etc.) And yeah, I do think the anger is warranted and the debate is important (check a few posts back and I explain it in detail.)

And, like I said, I get why WFA links to them, but ... they're also the kind of people fandom_wank was invented for. Yeah, you can get a prompt for a good essay out of them, but does anyone really care except for the assurance that someone agrees with them? Then again, they seem to go after the same people again and again too. So around and around and around it goes ...